As the title suggests, this did absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. After an 8 week course, I tried timing with/same time as food and nothing. If anything, I lost a bit of size on this. As far as 'natural anabolics' go, I don't seem to respond to Vector, Massmax and K1ngs Slayer, but did respond to Or1gin, which is now discontinued. Go figure...

Really good modern anabolic supplement, it does its job well, it helps me to gain lean mass. Without a doubt it's one of the best anabolic supplements in the modern market.